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Maxwell Bates (MB)
Well the "Beggar King", of course, is an opposite. You see, I've always been interested in contrasts, complete opposites. It seems to me that the beggar and the king are complete opposites.

Terry Guernsey (TG)
And so you've put them together?

MB
Yes, into one being.

TG
And sometimes these are in the same paintings with your scarecrows. That's what I was thinking of. For instance, the one in your brother's collection where you have the beggars and the scarecrows are in the background.

MB
And the beggars are more like Samuel Beckett's type.

TG
Do you like his work?

MB
Yes. And I've had people come to my studio and say that my people have sort of a Beckett, are sort of Beckett people. A lady from Toronto, I think it was last spring, said that. Of course Beckett is far more pessimistic, I think.

TG
I find that there is such an affirmative quality in all of your work.

MB
Yes, I hope there is, yes.

- Vancouver, 1972

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